not a mention
not a mention
hi suby lubers
has anyone ever wonderer WHY subies dont get a mention in 4wd mags
i get realy anoyed with the fact we dont get classed as a 4wd .specialy after watching some youtube vids theres some good subies out there doing hill climbs and mud work. you hear of the odd 4wd rescued buy a suby.
they go most places and some say more than big 4wds .
someone with a good off road built suby should ring em and get them to do a story . then other people mite realise you dont need heaps of lift and steam roller wheels to get places.
i told a m8 yesterday were taking the ruffy to the cape in 2010 he just loled and said wont make it. he recons not enough power and not enough lift .but hes very anty suby ford man through and through.
happy now got it of my chest
dibs
has anyone ever wonderer WHY subies dont get a mention in 4wd mags
i get realy anoyed with the fact we dont get classed as a 4wd .specialy after watching some youtube vids theres some good subies out there doing hill climbs and mud work. you hear of the odd 4wd rescued buy a suby.
they go most places and some say more than big 4wds .
someone with a good off road built suby should ring em and get them to do a story . then other people mite realise you dont need heaps of lift and steam roller wheels to get places.
i told a m8 yesterday were taking the ruffy to the cape in 2010 he just loled and said wont make it. he recons not enough power and not enough lift .but hes very anty suby ford man through and through.
happy now got it of my chest
dibs
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- Gannon
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I believe Subarinos Hatchie was featured in an article in a WA 4wd magazine.
I dont know the full story, but im sure someone else will fill you in
I dont know the full story, but im sure someone else will fill you in
Current rides: 2016 Mitsubishi Triton GLS & 2004 Forester X
Ongoing Project/Toy: 1987 RX Turbo EA82T, Speeduino ECU, Coil-pack ignition, 440cc Injectors, KONI adjustale front struts, Hybrid L Series/ Liberty AWD 5sp
Past rides: 92 L series turbo converted wagon, 83 Leone GL Sedan, 2004 Liberty GT Sedan & 2001 Outback
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Ongoing Project/Toy: 1987 RX Turbo EA82T, Speeduino ECU, Coil-pack ignition, 440cc Injectors, KONI adjustale front struts, Hybrid L Series/ Liberty AWD 5sp
Past rides: 92 L series turbo converted wagon, 83 Leone GL Sedan, 2004 Liberty GT Sedan & 2001 Outback
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- last celtic warrior
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Mate, what makes it a 4WD isn't the size of the vehicle or the amount of money that's been sunk into it, like a lot of tools out there seem to think. If it's got four wheels and you have the option of all four being powered, it's a 4WD.
What makes a good offroader package on the other hand is a combination of driver and vehicle. I've taken many of my cars off road and on the beach and only ever had to ask for help once, and it was definitely my own fault. Never done any damage or overly stressed the car either, even though I drove through many areas where 4WD's had been stuck, and before building this Subie I'd never owned a 4WD and never driven a 4WD off road.
So many people are surprised at how easily a 2WD beach buggy skips through sticky spots and up embankments and over obstacles that would stop or break most big 4WD's and their owners. It's simply a matter of sizing up where to put your wheels, having the right momentum and working with whatever power you have available. Confidence is the key. If you aren't honestly confident within yourself about where you're putting your vehicle, you should re-assess the situation before getting yourself into trouble.
As for the bigger 4WD's being tougher and more powerful, they HAVE to be, to lug their extra weight and bulk through sand and over obstacles, whereas Subarus and other smaller 4WD's are much lighter and don't need the extra strength and power. In fact, it's the lack of over the top power, size and strength that makes the average Subaru just as capable with it's lesser power and articulation if it's drivers know what he's doing with it.
On the magazine issue, it's mainly a matter of what vehicles are available to be featured, within the bounds of what sort of vehicle that particular magazine represents and supports.
After all is said and done, it comes down to a simple matter of having the right vehicle for you and driving it appropriately...
What makes a good offroader package on the other hand is a combination of driver and vehicle. I've taken many of my cars off road and on the beach and only ever had to ask for help once, and it was definitely my own fault. Never done any damage or overly stressed the car either, even though I drove through many areas where 4WD's had been stuck, and before building this Subie I'd never owned a 4WD and never driven a 4WD off road.
So many people are surprised at how easily a 2WD beach buggy skips through sticky spots and up embankments and over obstacles that would stop or break most big 4WD's and their owners. It's simply a matter of sizing up where to put your wheels, having the right momentum and working with whatever power you have available. Confidence is the key. If you aren't honestly confident within yourself about where you're putting your vehicle, you should re-assess the situation before getting yourself into trouble.
As for the bigger 4WD's being tougher and more powerful, they HAVE to be, to lug their extra weight and bulk through sand and over obstacles, whereas Subarus and other smaller 4WD's are much lighter and don't need the extra strength and power. In fact, it's the lack of over the top power, size and strength that makes the average Subaru just as capable with it's lesser power and articulation if it's drivers know what he's doing with it.
On the magazine issue, it's mainly a matter of what vehicles are available to be featured, within the bounds of what sort of vehicle that particular magazine represents and supports.
After all is said and done, it comes down to a simple matter of having the right vehicle for you and driving it appropriately...
Steve.
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i agree with you there steve.
buuuuuuut they dont even sell stuff for subys.and no one talks about them .when we do the cape trip im guna let them know .and see if they want to do a story on it .just to show them it can be done.( we wont tell if we have break downs shhhhhh)
of topic how was the wedding??????
dibs
buuuuuuut they dont even sell stuff for subys.and no one talks about them .when we do the cape trip im guna let them know .and see if they want to do a story on it .just to show them it can be done.( we wont tell if we have break downs shhhhhh)
of topic how was the wedding??????
dibs
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Probably need to look at the "softroader" magazines.
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just checkout who does the big adverts in the 4WD mags, there's your answer;)
theres a bit of movement to "mid-range" 4wds tho.
People romanticizing about doing the big tour, buy one of these mags, so then obviously you need a big 3ton+ 4wd + $40k of ARB equipment + $20k+ camper, otherwise you'll get stranded and die:twisted:.......can't have em thinking it can mostly be done in a cheap 4wd with just a sensible setup now can they?
Theres the odd story in them, but by and large its got to support the advertisers, so don't expect much change.
theres a bit of movement to "mid-range" 4wds tho.
People romanticizing about doing the big tour, buy one of these mags, so then obviously you need a big 3ton+ 4wd + $40k of ARB equipment + $20k+ camper, otherwise you'll get stranded and die:twisted:.......can't have em thinking it can mostly be done in a cheap 4wd with just a sensible setup now can they?
Theres the odd story in them, but by and large its got to support the advertisers, so don't expect much change.
I think that most people wont a bigger 4wd and so dont know just what a well setup little Suby can do.
But thay do talk about them, when we used to do 4x4 comp's, there was allways some one with there jaw droped open as what the little Subys can do, and thay would be like that for days, and there was allways a group of people cheering and happly when we did well at a hill climb or a mud pit, or if we did better then the bigger 4x4's.
And as for Subys going all the way to the top of Cape York, Well I have been there twice, first time with the Suby club we had a group of 8 subys,
3 MY wagons, 2 Brumbys, 3 L" wagons, non were highly modified, and we were looking for the hardest way( being the most fun way) to get there, but not so hard as to brake our cars, and we make it and had lots of fun.
Next time I went was just 2 Subys, 1 MY wagon, 1 L"wagon turbo,and again went looking for the hard stuff and was allso not long after the wet season, plus the L" had a tinne on the roof rack, and we had even more fun that time.
And the word had got out that we were coming, and every little town we stoped in people would ask us, are you mad bringing a car like that that up here not long after the wet? and what had we done to the cars?
I think if we can get the word out in a way like that is better than being in some magazine, let the way we do it in the dirt speek for itself.
Rik
But thay do talk about them, when we used to do 4x4 comp's, there was allways some one with there jaw droped open as what the little Subys can do, and thay would be like that for days, and there was allways a group of people cheering and happly when we did well at a hill climb or a mud pit, or if we did better then the bigger 4x4's.
And as for Subys going all the way to the top of Cape York, Well I have been there twice, first time with the Suby club we had a group of 8 subys,
3 MY wagons, 2 Brumbys, 3 L" wagons, non were highly modified, and we were looking for the hardest way( being the most fun way) to get there, but not so hard as to brake our cars, and we make it and had lots of fun.
Next time I went was just 2 Subys, 1 MY wagon, 1 L"wagon turbo,and again went looking for the hard stuff and was allso not long after the wet season, plus the L" had a tinne on the roof rack, and we had even more fun that time.
And the word had got out that we were coming, and every little town we stoped in people would ask us, are you mad bringing a car like that that up here not long after the wet? and what had we done to the cars?
I think if we can get the word out in a way like that is better than being in some magazine, let the way we do it in the dirt speek for itself.
Rik
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- brumbyrunner
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