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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:11 pm
by adamb
hi alex,

im just finishing off my turbo conversion now and i can tell u its frickin scary as driving it with shagged suspension and no wheel alignment haha. But well worth it, id say go turbo conversion just so u can laugh at VL turbos when u beat them.

Adam

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:12 pm
by El_Freddo
D3V1L wrote:hahah matty boy u dont understand how different boxer motors are

to get the rods out the motor has to be stripped of nearly every nut and bolt AND the block needs to be split into its 2 halves....

a big task at hand but not undoable

i think a rebuild is a better idea as well
The EA's don't have to stripped down to get the rods out - just the heads off, I'm guessing that the EJ would be no different... But i reckon if he's going to that extent you might as well split the block and stick some new bearings on the crank too.

Obviously a replacement EJ22 would be the quickest, but...

Just turbo the bitch!

Bennie.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:29 pm
by gx_rex
or rebuild the EJ22 with forgies and turbo that.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:21 pm
by subanator
EJ22 is pretty bullet proof, can take a fair hiding, but the EJ20G will just give the rest of you car a hiding and be forever fixing stuff.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:51 am
by El_Freddo
subanator wrote:the EJ20G will just give the rest of you car a hiding and be forever fixing stuff.
I think alex is already fixing stuff - just look at the EJ he's dropped in there... and if he's not fixin' stuff, he's polishing stuff :rolleyes:

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:24 am
by D3V1L
wrong..... have to split the block with ej motors. very different to ea motors

trust me ive just done one and have the manuals for all the motors

dave

El_Freddo wrote:The EA's don't have to stripped down to get the rods out - just the heads off, I'm guessing that the EJ would be no different... But i reckon if he's going to that extent you might as well split the block and stick some new bearings on the crank too.

Obviously a replacement EJ22 would be the quickest, but...

Just turbo the bitch!

Bennie.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:02 am
by vidler
from where your car is at the moment an ej25 will be an easy fit compared with the ej20g.

plus you can keep the same box, and you'll get shit loads more torque....

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:17 am
by AndrewT
I don't rekon the EJ25 is enough of an upgrade to justify the swap. Maybe if you can get one for the same or similar price as an EJ22.

The EJ20turbo will be a very easy upgrade. It will run off the same wiring loom with a few minor additions for the boost solenoids. You would need to upgrade the clutch and either modify the engine crossmember or get a turbo one.
EJ20turbo will blow you away but if you stick with the EA driveline be prepared for significantly more breakages then you already get! :)
It's worth noting that my wagon hasn't suffered any breakages at all that can be directly attributed to having an EJ20turbo - without even running an engine stayrod. Perhaps it is driving style, not too sure, you all know I don't really hold back. I can't imagine the Outback gearbox I'm using is a huge amount stronger than an L series one but running in front wheel drive on an L series box does take it's toll on the gearbox itself and the chassis of the car due to the twist from the extra torque.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:47 pm
by Phizinza
I'd just get a low k import EJ22. Throw it in and drive..

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:56 pm
by AndrewT
fyi I have found EJ22's are quite rare at import yards and usually very expensive. Much better off sourcing one from a locally smashed or wrecked car.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:25 pm
by 90brumby
ive got 3 ej22s here atm the brumby only needs 1

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:32 pm
by Matatak
if u go for a new EJ22.

then u may need another Series 1 engine as the Wiring Loom on a Series 2 is a bit different.

it can probly be worked aorund quite easy but u better find out first.

Subarino shuld no.

also a series 2 engine is a better one :)

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:37 pm
by AndrewT
5 minute job to swap over the little harness that runs under the inlet manifold pretty much to change between S1 and S2 I believe.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:47 pm
by Matatak
well if thats all it is :p
then nothing to worry bout.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:42 pm
by 90brumby
wat is the main differerence between s1 and s2 motors ive got em both here i wanna no which 1 to put in the brumby

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:45 pm
by Matatak
Go the series 2.

i no its got bigger injectors (i think its 280cc as opposed to 220 in S1. but aint sure on figures).

cant think of nething else tho atm lol

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:58 pm
by TARMAKH8R
wanky wagon with gate ? :)

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:36 pm
by AlpineRaven
Matatak wrote:if u go for a new EJ22.

then u may need another Series 1 engine as the Wiring Loom on a Series 2 is a bit different.

it can probly be worked aorund quite easy but u better find out first.

Subarino shuld no.

also a series 2 engine is a better one :)
Whats the difference between series 1 and 2?
Cheers
AP

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:46 pm
by Matatak
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thats bout all i no.

and theres a few more with the Gen1 and 2's that ive seen

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:20 am
by BrennyV
let him get a turbo! u know how bad he wants a bov ;)