ea82 vs ea82t ???

redwagon · Post by **redwagon** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:17 pm

hii

i amcurrently running a stock ea82 in my wagon and the oppurtunity has come about to get a broken ea82t wagon.

just want to know how much more power i can get out of the ea82t?
h
ow much more compared to the non turbos?

thanks in advance

Post by **Alex** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:22 pm

ea82t has a fair bit more 'go' than ea82 carby/efi.

is your car ea82 carby or efi?

you will still need the whole wiring harness out of the donor car. Better to look into an EJ conversion if your serious about it.

also whats broken on the ea82t?

alex

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:09 pm

EA82 carby is about 85Hp, MPFI is 90Hp
EA82 turbo is 115Hp, more if you turn up the boost

If you car is carby, i recommend the EJ20/22 as it is more reliable with similar power output. There is nearly equal work in putting in an EJ20 compared to the EA82T as far as wiring goes

redwagon · Post by **redwagon** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:52 pm

the turbo car has some rear end damage including both rear quarter panels, the boots got a large dent in it and the rear windscreen cracked also the right wheel is on a majorly wrong angle so i dont know whats caused that. going to look at the car this weekend. could the hub be snapped or something ?

could be possible to throw some money into that and fix it up.

ive got a carby atm

whats the max boost you should be running with all the stock internals ?

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:21 pm

that must be the ea82t one ive seen in the quokka in balcatta. yes ea82t has more power but not that much more, youre better of spending the time and effort on an ej22 or similar wreck

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:22 pm

is this the Turbo wagon in the quokka for the past few weeks or so?

dont know if it is still in there havent looked last week.

if you are wanting a conversion. youll be much better off with an EJ22 (can be had about the same money) which will give u more power throughout all rev range and basically requires same modifications.

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:37 pm

If your car was MPFI I'd say go for it straight away. They certainly pack more of a punch than the non-turbo motors and the conversion is almost plug_n_play, very little conversion work to do.

Given you are running carby most people have mentioned the wiring job (really the main part of the conversion) has almost as much work involved as fitting an EJ generation motor.

This is true but there is a way to avoid all the complicated splicing and cutting down of harnesses usually involved
Your car is an L series, and so is the donor car.
You could quite easily take the ENTIRE wiring harness from the donor car and fit it to yours.
It's a bit of work transferring it over but you don't really have to think about much, just make sure you get all of it and don't miss all the earths.

Really just depends how much time you have. It would be easy but probably just take a bit of time.

You'd want to transfer across the EFI fuel tank, pump and fuel lines from the donor car while you are at it.

As an EJ boy I really must advise you to go for an EJ conversion instead.
An EJ22 produces more power than an EA82turbo (both in stock form) and is a far better, more reliable and technologically advanced motor.
Have a read up of the many EJ conversion threads on the forum including the sticky one by Tim in the Conversions thread. I don't think anyone regrets going EJ once it's done

lovey80 · Post by **lovey80** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:50 pm

Are there any downfalls to going to EJ? Do you still have a dual range option? Sorry for the dumb question but will possibly be in a similar situation soon.

Cheers Chris.

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:55 pm

you use the Gearbox you choose to. so yes you can have Dual range

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:55 pm

Not really, just the initial work to do it.
If you go with anything much more powerful than an EJ22 then you get driveline issues with the standard L series driveline which is to be expected with the extra power (break CV;'s, gearboxes etc)
EJ22 is pretty sweet because it's a great increase but still not over the top.

You use an adaptor plate to fit the EJ series engines to the existing gearbox keeping dual range etc.

redwagon · Post by **redwagon** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:55 pm

thanks for all the help fellas.

and yeh its that one in balcatta

have u seen it ?

what you rekon ?

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm

havent seen it, wanted to check it out to see how theyd set up the waic and stuff.

lovey80 · Post by **lovey80** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:42 pm

What models came with EJ22? If i bought one and got a 5 speed Dual range at the same time (currently have a 4 speed). Would there be any additional problems than just fropping the EJ22 in? Sorry for the extra questions on the thread.

Cheers Chris

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:47 pm

forumdisplay.php?f=22

better read up on lots of threads in there mate.

bit more involved than 'dropping' in but well worth it if you get it done.

Ronin · Post by **Ronin** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:52 am

Ive just finished my converstion from EA82 carby to EA82T. Goes so much better than the carby. Defanitly notice it up hills or when you need to make that quick overtake past a couple trucks before you end up stuck behind them for the next hour and a half.

Unfortunatly my car used to be a EA71 FWD. Defanitly need to put the RX box in, FWD doesnt like the more powerful engine.
The whole converstion was pretty easy. Just took me a while as its the first time Ive ever taken full wiring out, plus my donor car was a RX coupe and mine is a L series wagon, so the rear lights and stuff dont just plug in like I foolishly hoped they would. I didnt have to take the fuel tank out, just added another line, but I think the fuel level sender on the tank doesnt work properly with the RX dash. Empty seems to be just above the E.

Ive never seen these EJ conversions, but my old man has a legacy 2.0 Turbo and that thing goes very well.

Subaman · Post by **Subaman** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:55 am

Mate if the EA82T is a good price then go for it, having owned a few RX turbos,and driven EJ converted cars I can assure you they perform way better than the stock EA82, and with the boost upped a little they will leave any EJ20 or 22 behind, they develop their maximum torque around 2800rpm which is more suited to offroad work than the EJ motors which is developed at +4000rpm. Reliability will be an issue on any motor than is not maintained properly weather it be an EA or EJ makes no difference. The only thing I would suggest if you dont know the vehicles history is to throw a new set of head gaskets in it, replace all rubber hoses you can and throw a new timing belt in at the same time.
Cheers
Grant

redwagon · Post by **redwagon** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:59 am

Subafury wrote:havent seen it, wanted to check it out to see how theyd set up the waic and stuff.

yeh i rang him

and he said it might have a cracked piston he rekons.

so i dunnooo
bit of work past my abilities really

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:35 am

Subaman wrote:and with the boost upped a little they will leave any EJ20 or 22 behind,

They might *just* leave a complete bog standard EJ20 or 22 behind but the boost would have to be upped to a pretty dangerous level to do it.

Grandpa engine with a hairdryer strapped to it....

Post by **Alex** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:42 pm

ea82t need some severe mods to beat a ej22.

that is all.

alex

schultzie · Post by **schultzie** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:11 pm

what do you call severe... would you call mine severe!

they will run up to 10-12psi boost after that the stock computer starts having a head ache.