Legalilties regarding Turbo conversions

[Gannon]

I was just curious what you guys who have converted your l series wagons to turbo do as far as engineering and insurance?

Who do you insure with?

I will only be after Green slip and 3rd party property, not full comprehensive.

[timmo]

I notified Vicroads of my turbo conversion and changed the engine number on my registration no worries no engineers certificate. Got 3rd party insurance - no probs either.

timmo

[D3V1L]

my L series wagon had the ea82 conversion, called the rego joint notified them of new engine number and all was sweet, went through the pits with the turbo engine without a question asked as well

even my liberty when converted to turbo was the same situation, no issues, just had to call the licencing centre and supply them with the new engine number

this is in WA though

dave

[discopotato03]

It it was offered as a factory option it would be difficult for Traffic Authorities to nock it back provided you fitted the ADR'd brakes/suspension/emission control bits .

Cheers A .

[El_Freddo]

It it was offered as a factory option it would be difficult for Traffic Authorities to nock it back provided you fitted the ADR'd brakes/suspension/emission control bits .

Cheers A .

True, unless you've put the turbo into the L wagon from a sedan,some authorities are so tight that even this swap into essentially the same car needs to be certified as the wagon never came as a factory option into australia as a turbo - this is where they reckon it needs to be certified.

I'm not saying this is in all cases, but if they want to be picky they can and will.

Someone on this forum either had this problem or found out about it some other way, can't remember which state they were from though.

Cheers

[Gannon]

I was talking to somebody and they said that it would probably be best to engineer it cos insurance companys can be picky, especially a big claim or if somebody is killed.

Im gonna be engineering it and i got a quote from Justcar yesterday, $500 to insure it as a turbo converted with larger brakes. Thats 3rd party only and i am under 21... i rekon thats acceptiable

[Ben]

Gannon,

Get it straight from the horses mouth, in writing that way you do not have to deal with here-say, anecdotes and bull **** to cover yourself.

[email protected]

Email address above will tell you everything you need to know. Be upfront and provide as much detail as you can, even leaving minor things out can cause an issue. I saw the engineers certificate that Neville Gosson got for his old MY, and I can tell you now it was very comprehensive, even including details of the changes to the fuel system, and the install of the rear disc brakes - even though they are a bolt on swap.

[steptoe]

a copy of that certificate would be nice to see up here

[Ben]

Mate, not going to happen, my mate that bought it sold it when he moved to NZ so I don't know who owns it now.

[redskin]

I have checked this with the RTA tech engineers in Sydney so l know it to be correct for NSW and what l had to do to be legal.
If the replacement motor is identicle to the motor originally supplied to the vehicle in question on compliance, no certificate is ness. This leaves open reco and secondhand n/a engines that can be fitted without hassel other than to advise the rta of the new numbers.
The fact that the replacement motor is still basically an 1800 and that it was an option available with that model does not count, if your car didn't originally have it from the factory, and you want it legal enough to insure, you will most likely be asked for an engineers certificate.
Might seem a little harsh but the reason is to keep dodgy conversions off the road and to make sure you have made all the other modifactions needed to convert a n/a vehicle to turbo, ie, brakes, suspension etc.
Mechawagon is right when he claims his mates cert was comprehensive, mine is about 4 pages long and is very thorough, all modifications are listed including the tyre size and a copy of it is meant to live in the glovebox.
Your rego papers will also have printed on them, Modified vehicle, reference to an engineers cert and it's number in future.
My camera is in for repairs at the moment so l can't post photo's of these papers but if you want a look Gannon, let me know.

[SubaRute]

just cars insurance

sorry i dont got the number

[Gannon]

I did an internet qoute with justcar and it was $500 for just 3rd party, which i can live with (i am under 21)

I might drop in redskin some time in the next few weeks when im in port and have a chat

[L-Raiser]

Im right in the middle of my engine conversion process.....
( ie. 1999 'EJ25' & g/box to replace my factory 'EA82' & box as well as my 50mm lift kit & disc brakes )

Just last week I received my approved 'Application Form for Vehicle Modification' from the Dept of Planning & Infrastructure here in West Oz (They are the WA version of VICROADS & RTA etc) Their form was 11 pages long, where I had to answer all 70 Questions and state every modification I planned to perform.

They sent it back to me with yet another form of theirs that requires the vehicle to be sighted and cleared by a certified engineer. My engineer is going to cost me roughly $100 for his signature.

After that it 'should' be a 'rubber stamp' job....hopefully!

My mechanics are pulling my 'L' down in a weeks time.....I cant wait!

Once completed & approved, Shannans Insurrance have already agreed to insure my Modded 'L' for around $10,000 (which will also include my respray mods).

This was my main reason for getting my mods certified, so that I can INSURE my lil investment. Any mods done to a car that aren't certified/approved wont be paid out in the event of an insurrance claim. Plus, I dont want any eager 'Boy (or Girl for that matter) In BLUE' wacking a YELLOW Defect sticker on my baby.

Karen

[El_Freddo]

Just last week I received my approved 'Application Form for Vehicle Modification' from the Dept of Planning & Infrastructure here in West Oz (They are the WA version of VICROADS & RTA etc) Their form was 11 pages long, where I had to answer all 70 Questions and state every modification I planned to perform.

They sent it back to me with yet another form of theirs that requires the vehicle to be sighted and cleared by a certified engineer. My engineer is going to cost me roughly $100 for his signature.

After that it 'should' be a 'rubber stamp' job....hopefully!

Nice. You make it sound so easy over there. To me here in Vic no-one knows whats going on. They say to talk to an engineer before you do anything is the best method.

Once completed & approved, Shannans Insurrance have already agreed to insure my Modded 'L' for around $10,000 (which will also include my respray mods).

Plus, I dont want any eager 'Boy (or Girl for that matter) In BLUE' wacking a YELLOW Defect sticker on my baby.

How much is it going to cost you to insure if you don't mind me asking? And if you ever got a canary sticker it'd match the paint job

Nice work, you'll have to get us some pics of the conversion if you can.

Cheers

[L-Raiser]

Nice. You make it sound so easy over there. To me here in Vic no-one knows whats going on. They say to talk to an engineer before you do anything is the best method.

Go to:- http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/b ... _ncop.aspx

Its a link to the WA Govt Dept of Transport, at the bottom of the page they have links to other contacts in each state. Try them, see what they say...

How much is it going to cost you to insure if you don't mind me asking? And if you ever got a canary sticker it'd match the paint job

Nice work, you'll have to get us some pics of the conversion if you can.

Cheers

Perth Vehicle Insurrance Policies are much easier on the hip pocket compared to Melb & Sydney thank goodness. Ive lived in both cities and was blown away by the higher costs to insure vehichles over there. Shannons have agreed to insure my 'L' - after the mods, for $10,000 at approx. $55 per month, if I remember correctly.

I shall be posting my mods progess soon hopefully with heaps of pics.....