Oil Filters

General Subaru Talk - Media / News / Stories ...
Post Reply

Oil Filters

3rd Party ie. Bursons or unknown brand?
6
75%
3rd Party ie. Bursons or unknown brand?
2
25%
3rd Party ie. Bursons or unknown brand?
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 8

User avatar
AlpineRaven
Senior Member
Posts: 3682
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

Oil Filters

Post by AlpineRaven » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:37 pm

For your Subaru engine, would you use Subaru genuine oil filters or after market oil filters (ie. Ryco/Bursons) and why?

For my Liberty EJ22, I can get get Ryco ones for $4.40 or Subaru one for $12.50. I really don't know what is the differences would be (only size differences that is.) But I am talking about filtration itself.

Cheers
AP
Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
Image

User avatar
Brumby Boy
Junior Member
Posts: 594
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Post by Brumby Boy » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:15 pm

i personaly put genuine and ryco filters on the same level. we use geuine filters at work on soobs only cos we are a dealer everything else we use ryco.
Long live the 1990 Subaru Brumby 2" lifted and soon to be mig locked
RIP 1992 Brumby

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2507954
http://www.myspace.com/brumby_boy

few self-respecting ricers would spend the time to modify a Daewoo.

Image

User avatar
subanator
Junior Member
Posts: 664
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Perth WA

Post by subanator » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:34 pm

As it has been explained to me, a non-genuine filter is the equivalent to a few wraps of tissue paper and has sometimes a bypass valve for when the filter gets blocked, so no more filtering.......As opposed to the genuine filter the equivalent to a roll of toilet paper that can still be filtering the whole time of service, and has superior filtration in regards to particle size.

Never destroyed a filter to investigate, too messy, so i cant back this theory up.
'03 Forester X, stock standard for now.

'89 EA82T Touring Wagon, 5-speed D/R, 14" alloy wheels, bullbar. (Past ride)

'81 MY wagon, 3" lift, 5-speed D/R, Weber, 14x27" tyres. (Past ride)

User avatar
waggaclint
Junior Member
Posts: 559
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:00 am
Location: perth wa

Post by waggaclint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:44 pm

ive cut up geniune and ryco filters they look the same inside...if they wernt any good car companys would void ya warranty if ya use em...
2011 Forester X

User avatar
tim_81coupe
General Member
Posts: 1693
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Perth

Post by tim_81coupe » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:18 am

Bypass valve? Sure you're not thinking of an anti-drainback valve Roger?

The cheapie filters usually have less holes and thinner paper, in extreme cases I've even seen surface rust on the threads and face of the filter.
82 MY Wagon, EJ20G

87 RX, EJ20G

89 Brumby, EA81

12 BRZ, FA20

User avatar
Xtreme_RX
Junior Member
Posts: 741
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Deception Bay, QLD

Post by Xtreme_RX » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:56 am

Genuine / Nippon Micro is the only way to go.....
SubiParts Australia - Australia's BIGGEST Aftermarket Subaru Parts Specialist
http://www.subiparts.com.au

BlackBox Motorsports - Subaru Suspension Systems
http://www.blackboxmotorsports.com.au
0438 887 746
'L' Series Touring Wagon - EJ22 & 4.111 AWD
Gen 1 Liberty GX – Worked EJ22 & 4.11 AWD

User avatar
BaronVonChickenPants
General Member
Posts: 1187
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Nowra, NSW

Post by BaronVonChickenPants » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:46 am

Not sure about the EJ's but on the EA's I was told by a few people that the ryco/3rd party filters don't have a pressure release system that the genuine ones do, you can see it with the open end of 2 side by side.

With out this release it blows out the oil pump seals which reduces oil pressure and leaks down the front of your engine and can contribute to the lifter tick issue in EA82's, in EA81's it's really just a PITA.

Jordan.
To become old and wise, first you must survive being young and dumb.
Image

User avatar
stinky
Posts: 841
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Brisbane

Post by stinky » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:35 am

I only use genuine's in mine, but I have used Ryco in the past with no dramas. $12 every 5000ks is nothing compared to what I spend on oil :)
'91 brumby, EJ-Turbo with VOSChip, 2" lift, 15" superlites, Dual Range AWD.

'93 Subaru Legacy, 2.2 auto, automatic seatbelts, LHD.

User avatar
tassyraider
Junior Member
Posts: 87
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:00 am
Location: tas

Post by tassyraider » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:52 am

hi i struck troubles with A burson filteraprox 500ks, it possibly was to tight to filter oil as i had a good sounding engine,then a metalick noise started as soon i noticed i went to burson and told them my hassels,theynever herd of this trouble before, then i got a ryco the noise is still there but lesser noise in my opinion use a recomended /suby/ryco only cheerz ME
current ej18 awd targa brumby
95 impreza awd sportz wagon

User avatar
Smokey
Junior Member
Posts: 438
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Sydney, NSW

Post by Smokey » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:10 pm

Xtreme_RX wrote:Genuine / Nippon Micro is the only way to go.....
So where do you get the Nippon Micro ones, is there another place other than local Subaru dealership? And what are the costs?

I have used Ryco for both the EJ22 and EA82 carb, have done approx 140k and 5k respectively.

I had the oil O ring seal in the EJ22 go at about 160k... Was an easy fix once I figured out what it was, after removing the drive belts, radiator timing covers and belt. At 5-6k RPM the oil was literally spraying out the bottom. Would stop at street lights and had black smoke coming up from the engine bay as it burnt off on the zorst. Wonder if the Ryco's caused this as mentioned by BaronVonChickenPants...

User avatar
Brumby Boy
Junior Member
Posts: 594
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Post by Brumby Boy » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:42 pm

have only used genuine / ryco and never ever heard of a problem unless the old o-ring was left on..
Long live the 1990 Subaru Brumby 2" lifted and soon to be mig locked
RIP 1992 Brumby

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2507954
http://www.myspace.com/brumby_boy

few self-respecting ricers would spend the time to modify a Daewoo.

Image

User avatar
AlpineRaven
Senior Member
Posts: 3682
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:00 am
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

Post by AlpineRaven » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:15 am

Interesting!! The more info I am finding, I find genuine better and well spent for Subaru's engine. I guess having genuine lasts longer for the engine's sake!
Cheers
AP
Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
Image

Post Reply

Return to “Subaru Chat”