Lift or lower?

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:00 pm

My EJ20G also has more than enough torque offroad.

I say Lift it, EJ20 Turbo + Lib Dual range.

Kind of reminds me of my car...

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:30 pm

The turbo EJ's have a stack of bottom end torque for what they are, sure they're no 6.5 Chevy Diesel but they're pretty good in a low rev, high throttle condition. Saying they don't move until 2500rpm is stupid and unfounded. 2500rpm is nearly where a stock EJ20G will hit full boost. Remember too that a turbocharger doesn't have to be producing positive manifold pressure to be increasing the HP of an engine, driving a turbo car with a boost gauge will show you this. I would say you can feel the torque rise in a stock EJ20G at around 1400rpm.

EJ20G offroaders rule. So do EJ20G onroaders, provided they're nice and light

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:20 pm

my wagon isn't a coupe.

changing over struts to liberty ones would be the same price as lifting 3", no?

mattims · Post by **mattims** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:45 pm

hehe i think andrew did get stuck once due to not being on boost .. but he was towing my car with a completely dead engine at the time.. and he made it up the hill on the second attempt (still towing my car)

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:07 pm

KERAZY wrote:my wagon isn't a coupe.

changing over struts to liberty ones would be the same price as lifting 3", no?

Your wagon isn't a coupe but really my coupe still hammered with a few mates in the car. The extra 100-150kg's won't make a world of difference really.

The liberty strut conversion is significantly more involved than a 3" lift kit. The sensible option nowadays is to go with the bratgeebah kit, he offers a whole car solution complete with master cylinder upgrades and exchange components. If you want to tackle it on your own you'll probably feel left in the cold more than once, very few people have actually done the swap on their own and even less will be willing to answer questions you might have.

Remember if you lift it you still have the 5 stud option later on.
And there's something else that should be noted too. Some of you may be wondering why I haven't got my EJ20G offroader working yet. Half of it is because I've been slack and I've had a lot of stuff going on, the other half is due to the fact that the plumbing for these motors is significantly changed with the addition of a lift kit. I've had my coupe's radiator further modified and there's no sensible way a TMIC will fit. I am also changing a few flaws the old coupe had, but thats beside the point.

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:24 pm

i had a talk with my cousin this evening. he's kept his brumby street, he's still got his white 4-stud steelies, he bought his with the EJ20 already in it. before he started modding he gave me a ride in it. How that turned out can be shown in the equasion below:

EJ20G + AWD + Rev Limiter = Necessity for tissues.

My argument is this. It's getting harder and harder to be different in the world of cars, and indeed society. I've never seen a street MY EJ20G wagon, they're all lifted. Thats why I'm leaning that way.... BUT, let me ask this:

how easy/hard is it to convert from street (completely standard just with lowered hard springs) to lifted say 2" all round? Does lifting only involve the struts, springs and CV shafts (longer)? in other words, can I have both? It's not entirely a crazy idea, is it?

edit: his brumby runs low 12's high 11's now. It's orange.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:56 pm

Its a bit more complex, mainly in the intercooler and radiator departments, but apart from that there should be no worries. Might have to leave a bit of slack in your fuel pipes and wiring just in case.

Suba · Post by **Suba** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:12 am

Can you have both , yeah buy 2 ,one you lift and one you lower.
The cv shafts are not modded in any way the whole drive line is moved away from the body , ie the body is raised off the drive line .

Mike.

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:37 am

true? some douchebag on boostcruising.com said otherwise.

well... I might actually see if a dude wants to sell the one thats in the yard next to me. I hate the guy, and I've been in a couple fights with him... but money prevails.

ah, adolescence.

anyway, assuming he says 'no, you prick', I could EJ20G-ify my car, and when I wanted, I could just change over rims/tyres and suspension... is that right?

oh.. no wait exhaust problems. bugger. well, could have an extra complete exhaust set, one suited for lifted, one for lowered? that right?

edit: tim, you finished yet? hurry up and come show me a proper 4x4

sorry for all the questions, but I keep getting the urge to rip off my L-plates and sting it out to SECWA

, I'm just worried I'll have to compomise the urge to rip it through mud and gravel with the urge to have a bit of a play at the lights, while still maintaining enough power to be safe on the road (and get me out of the shit when I need it, let me pass quicker etc.). I'm a good boy, honest.

Clearwater99 · Post by **Clearwater99** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:12 am

Lift it .. you can allways stay on the bitumen .. however you gota get a bit higher to go to those realy nice place's in the world ..

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:37 am

yes...

but I'm in northam.

nice places don't exist here.

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:00 am

oh wait. EJ20G if I do that, I can't have low range, is that correct?

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:09 am

I've got low range with my EJ20G, but I'm not a boy racer so I don't intend on breaking the gearbox going launches.

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:48 pm

don't you get torque steer?

daza · Post by **daza** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:05 pm

KERAZY wrote:don't you get torque steer?

There are Awd Duel Range boxes, they were availible in Impreza's and Liberty's.

Daza.

KERAZY · Post by **KERAZY** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:31 pm

ah nice.

might look into that.