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Post by taza » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:46 am

The latest SJ model Forester diesels are much better than thwir original ones. The ratios are much more suites. The biggest downfall is the turbo lag is so large.

It could be done without too much effort at the oresent time. However it wouldn't be cheap. I was considering a SJ ee20 swap into a SF or SG forester...

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Post by TOONGA » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:09 am

Boxeer diesel conversions :)

http://boxeer.com/

the motor is around $5000 on its own

http://boxeer.com/ee20_subaru_conversion

If I was rich I would buy a good condition brumby and fill it will diesel goodies.

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Post by taza » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:43 am

As Toonga said there are parts available. I'd personally buy a wrecked vehicle for the conversion. Then you have all the necessary parts you need.

It probably wouldn't cost that much to do. If AM Auto's conducted the conversion I'd image it'd only be 20-30 k. Which in the scheme of things isnt too bad.

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Post by TOONGA » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:01 pm

Big problem you have is with the canbus controllers and ECU from Subaru. The bosch stand alone lets you run the engine without lots of problems.

So yes you could buy a shunted wreck but you would still need a work around to run the engine.

I'm sure there was another thread in which this was discussed by Gannon but I can't find it.

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Post by taza » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:57 pm

I'd go an aftermark computer with an application like that. I meant as in you have a matching gearbox, dunp pipe, etc... not buying just a motor.

I'm sure someone will do this conversion one day. Itd certainly be torquey with the power to weight ratio.

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Post by Gannon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:33 pm

TOONGA wrote: I'm sure there was another thread in which this was discussed by Gannon but I can't find it.

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Post by TOONGA » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:17 pm

Gannon wrote:Was it just?
Gannon wrote:I'd love to take it on, the CAN bus wiring loom would be a real challenge. Unfortunately I dont have enough money or space to have another project

Well You did say it would be a real a challenge :)

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Post by Tigger » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:01 pm

My Husband and I were talking about this last night - putting the engine from our SH Diesel Forester into our Petrol SF Forester.

One of the things we dislike most about or Diesel Forester is the lack of Dual Range Gear box but the SF Forester has one of those :)

Was just a passing comment but I think it would be cool!
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Post by taza » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:34 pm

I changed my SF from a 2.0l to a 2.5l manual. Kept the stock gearbox but am soon upgrading to a newer recon box with better low range gearing and limited slip diffs. The engine was thr best move I ever did. Been in there for 20,000km.

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Post by Tigger » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:52 pm

Our engine has 315,000km on the clock and is still going well but we find it to be quite sluggish (compared to our Turbo Diesel especially) so we might look into upgrading the engine to a 2.5l at some stage just to give it a bit more power - we were even thinking about putting a turbo charged engine into it :twisted: - but that is still a little way off at the moment
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Post by taza » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:47 am

I can understand that. The 2.0l doesn't have the torque. The larger displacement makes a massive difference. I did mine at 204, 000km. Bought the car with 110, 000km in 2010. I find fuel economy is slightly worse but not too bad. The general power makes up for it, makes for less gear changes and easy overtaking power without the need for 4th gear.
Don't get me wrong its not a performance car but it does the job. Tows a car trailer adequately at speeds upto 90kmhr without much trouble.
A worthwhile swap. If I were to do it again I'd go the 3.0l from a outback( ez30d) or a newer 2.5 from a 2006+ forester/outback as these have variable valve timing and are more powerful again and it adds some fuel economy.

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Post by Tigger » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:11 pm

Thanks taza, I will definitely keep that in mind when we start looking at changing the engine over :)
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